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Challenge: leave or take as you please :D I thought it was a good idea to get some more posting or something going in the community

What can you come up with in myth for Maduin/Madeen, the esper from FF6?

FF Compendium: Madeen
FF Compendium: FF6 Characters

o_O I came up with.. well apparently, it's a place in Idaho.

I don't think there is much about Maduin though. XD; Oh well.

Bismark, the whale - A very powerful humpbacked whale that doles out water damage. Most likely taken from the famous German battleship Bismarck

Asura - Queen of the Espers in the FF4 underworld. She grants protective and beneficial things on the party once you get her.* Taken from Hinduism. Asura is a powerful creature, usually translated to demon, but not exactly sinister. They are opposed to the devas.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/asuras.html -
that explains it a lot better..
I also found a bit of a note relating it to the Aesir on wikipedia, however, you know, grain of salt and everything. Still interesting.

Ark - FF9. I'm not touching this one with a ten yard pole.

"ANIMA DAMNATA ...:::Extreme Satanic Brutal Death Metal:::...Official Website. ... PRAISE THE NAME OF SATAN.</font>"
came up. >_>;;;
Also "The Anima is the personification of all feminine psychological tendencies within a man, the archetypal feminine symbolism within a man's unconscious. The Animus is the personification of all masculine psychological tendencies within a woman, the archetypal masculine symbolism within a woman's unconscious." Um.
This is kinda hard.
Lets just assume that it has something to do with some kind of death related mythic revelation >_> .... XD
Argh, why do I choose the hard ones?

Atomos - A big mouth like creature (o_O) that does gravity damage. Possibly named because of relating "atom" to gravity. - I don't know, but it makes sense.

Brothers/Minotaur/Sehkmet -
Minotaur is referring to the bullheaded man trapped in the labyrinth from Greek myth.
Sehkmet - Sekhmet was a lionheaded goddess of illness, fire and plague that was once sent by Ra to kill the human race but wouldn't stop when Ra changed his mind. She was stopped by Thoth in a clever way.

Edit: and even though it was in my one comment, I'm again including Siren

Siren - Seen in FF6 and 8. A mythical half woman half bird (ingreek myths) that would sing melodies so beautifully that sailors wouldsail their ships close onto the rocks the Siren's lived on, or jump theship.

There's the bit about the sirens.

and that has some siren info below the selkie, including an interesting thing about white snakes with wings.

*when I played it, it was one of the LONGEST battles in FF4 other than the ones in the last dungeon!! SO much more challenge in that one battle than in the freaking Ruby/Emerald battles! I had to make a strategy myself!
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On July 2nd, 2006 02:53 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra commented:
OMG can't believe you found a Satan loving website lol...I hate it when stuff like that pops up on your browser when your innocently searching and someone walks behind and looks at your screen - its usually porn - "Really Mum I wasn't searching for hentai porn pics!" etc.... *ahem* But Bismarck brings back memories from some of the few history lessons I thought were really dull.. Bismarck and his rule over the German Empire... could have been interesting but in fact was really dull... not as bad as "British Politics in the 1900s" though... I never want to see another education act again.. anyway I'm waffling now.

I like the new layout btw it looks more... well mythological. I'm glad the comms picking up again after a few quiet weeks! I actually made an effort this time to go pimp it out like you said and I think it has worked... ^ ^
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:57 pm (UTC), yrena replied:
I couldn't believe it either.
I vaguely remembered the name Bismarck (the ship, not the ruler) from something my grandfather said when he was in the service (went to europe, london in particular during some of the heavy bombings, and although he never faced actual combat, there were times he had a feeling and left a building just seconds before it blew up behind him), although I never actually studied it in my classes.
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On July 2nd, 2006 09:03 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra replied:
Wow your Grandfather must have been in the East End then (well I would guess) - thats where the Blitz took place and therefore all the heaviest bombings. The majority of my family were from the East End - my Great Aunt talks a lot about being a service woman in the East End at the time - she spent a lot of time with the foreign soldiers - allies and enemies (I know she liked the Italian captives quite a bit ^ ^) - hey its a long shot but you never know your Grandfather could have met her - or some of my other relatives!

But as for buildings being blown up like that - I remember my Nan talking about having an airraid shelter at the bottom of the garden - and apparently her Grandfather refused to go down there! He just sat in their home while all the bombs where going off around him! I think he survived as well - even though the area around them was very damaged - I guess some people must just have incredible luck.
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On July 2nd, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC), yrena replied:
I don't think it was the Blitz... but during a regular bombing run or something like an undetonated bomb going. I kinda thought the Blitz was before the US entered the war.
As for being lucky, I think he had premonitions as I do. It's really kind of freaky because I have foreknowledge of things happening or about to happen before I'm told sometimes. It's freaked my friends out XD; I knew what my friend's costume for Anime Expo was gonna be if he made it (at least as close as I could get it) without him telling me, the other day.

Possibly Gramps knew someone you do, he said he dated a few gals over there. I don't imagine it was a really nice date though, because he complained that nobody in his outfit really got to wash too well. - Want me to tell you the story? XD it involves two helmets of water, soap, saltwater, and the end of the war.

How did we get on this subject again? ^_^;
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On July 2nd, 2006 09:57 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra replied:
I'm not sure about the time of the Blitz - but I know the East End was heaviest hit - throughout the whole war. It must have been a horrific experience though - I know one of my Nans couldn't bear having the door shut in a room - some kinda claustrophobia caused by being in bomb shelters.

But premonitions are strange - there are quite a few people who have them - I've had a couple of dreams that have come true (nothing major though). But I knew one person who was supposed to go on holiday a while back - he was really excited about it - but he had a bad dream the night before warning him not to go... and in the morning was so scared and certain he shouldn't go he hid his passport... and pretended he had lost it even though everyone was going mad at him - later on they found out the plane had crashed and that he would have died. I'm also friends with a girl at uni who has had about four dreams where someone has died - and than that person actually *did* die. She gets so afraid when it happens that she won't sleep for days and days - I don't blame her! But her Mum has the same thing happen to her - I guess that sort of thing must run in families - like your Grandad and you. Okay I've gone very off topic now but its all just so interesting ^ ^
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On July 2nd, 2006 04:09 pm (UTC), yrena replied:
I like the new layout btw it looks more... well mythological.

Thank you. I thought so too. I'm thinking of changing the color scheme though
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:19 pm (UTC), mimi_sardinia commented:
Ark - FF9. I'm not touching this one with a ten yard pole.

Huh? Why not? Isn't the Ark Eidolon a ship? Sounds like someone was playing on biblical names. I wonder what the original Japanese name was?
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:25 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra replied:
Yeah I was thinking that - it must just mean Noah's Ark.
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:28 pm (UTC), mimi_sardinia replied:
That's what I figured, which made me wonder why someone wouldn't want to touch the subject.

Somehow Noah's Ark feels like an American translation to me, which is why I wonder what the original japanese name meant.
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:35 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra replied:
Yeah that would be interesting to know.... almost every culture around the world has its own "Ark" story - so maybe it would be the Japanese/oriental version?
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:51 pm (UTC), mimi_sardinia replied:
I think we will only know if we could find the original name.
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On July 2nd, 2006 04:00 pm (UTC), yrena replied:
Sounds like someone was playing on biblical names.
almost every culture around the world has its own "Ark" story
Exactly. That, and all the religious connections it has. It was 3am in the morning XD I wasn't going to chase em all.. Didn't feel like waffling through all the Christian symbolism. Sides we pretty much get the picture from the name, don't we?
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On July 2nd, 2006 03:22 pm (UTC), bangbangshinra commented:
Oh and as for Maduin/Madeen - I though it sounded Scottish in some way - looked it up and Maduin seems to be a word/name in Scottish Gaelic - though I have been unable to work out exactly what
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On July 2nd, 2006 04:02 pm (UTC), yrena replied:
I got pretty much nothing but that in my search. I asked blackjackrocket and she said the same about the celtic connection.. *sigh*
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On September 26th, 2006 05:08 am (UTC), vilajunkie replied:
First post here, but anyway...I think Maduin comes from Maelduin, a Celt who went on an adventure that took him through many exotic and fantastic (read: mythic) islands. Something like St. Brendan or Odysseus. I wish I could remember more about him.
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